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grey alien officer Pictures, Images and PhotosSergeant Stone tells an amazing story about the

history of UFO’s and extraterrestrials dating back to the early 40’s and

probably before. General Douglas MacArthur organized a group called the

Interplanetary Phenomena Research Unit back in 1943 to study this issue and it

continues to this day. Their purpose is to recover objects of unknown origin

particularly those that are of non-Earthly origin.

They obtain field intelligence

information and pass it on to those who are the “keepers of this information.” Stone

says that even Project Bluebook had an elite investigation unit, which was outside

of Bluebook. This unit was thought to be working in conjunction with Bluebook but in

fact was not. Stone has seen living and dead in his official

duties on an army team that retrieved crashed ET crafts. He thinks that the

extraterrestrials will not permit us to explore the depths of outer space until

we’ve learned to grow spiritually and that they will make themselves known soon if

we don’t first acknowledge their presence. On February 26th, 1942, commonly called

the Battle of Los Angeles, we find that there are some 15 to 20 unidentified craft

flying over Los Angeles. We immediately responded by trying to shoot these objects

down. The 37th Coastal Artillery Group expended 1,430 rounds. We immediately set out

to try to find out if there was some hidden base belonging to the Axis from where

these planes could come, some commercial airport that they could have had these

aircraft housed. None of this bore out. Every search effort we made turned out to be


At the same time in the Pacific they were experiencing the same

phenomena, the so-called Foo Fighters. General MacArthur directed his intelligence

people to find out what was going on. I have reason to believe that in 1943

MacArthur found out that in fact we had things not of this Earth and visitors from

some other planet visiting our planet that was actually observing that world event

we call the Second World War. One of the problems that he had was that, should this

be the case, and should they prove to be hostile, we knew very little about them and

we had very little means to defend ourselves.

MacArthur organized what was

called the Interplanetary Phenomena Research Unit. [See the testimony of Buck

Sergeant Leonard Pretko regarding MacArthur’s involvement in the ET issue and his

knowledge of the retrieved spacecraft and ET’s from the New Mexico Crash. SG]

It would later be taken over by General Marshall. And it continued all the

way through to present day. Names have been changed and records still haven’t

surfaced. The Army tries to state that it was not an official organization effort to

try to investigate UFO’s. But it was organized by a General, it bore a fruit, it

came to conclusions that were not popular, i.e., interplanetary spacecraft. And they

continued to do exactly what they do today and that is to be part of a multi

-....intelligence operation in the recovery of objects of unknown origin

particularly those that are of non-Earthly origin. Their purpose is to assess that

information, get raw field intelligence data, and process that data into some type

of useful intelligence product to disseminate to the field- to those people who have

a need to know and those people that are, shall we say, the keepers of that


One of MacArthur’s Air Force generals, an Army Air Corps

General at the time, came back to MacArthur and told MacArthur “what we have is

something not of this Earth”. I would suggest that by this time even the Germans had

uncovered evidence that we were being visited and had some type of physical

evidence. MacArthur definitely had physical evidence. From the documentation I saw

[while working this issue in the Army], I was not able to ascertain exactly what

that physical evidence consisted of but it was there.

The one thing I find

quite unique is that the Germans may have tried to back-engineer one of these

objects. We definitely tried to back-engineer it. But we find that your technology

has to be on par with the acquired technology in order to back-engineer it…

In the 1950’s, the United States Air Force had an elite unit to

investigate UFO’s outside of Bluebook. Even though Bluebook felt that this unit was

working with them, they were not. This unit was initially organized as a 4602nd Air

Intelligence Service Squadron. Among its peacetime missions was operation Blue Fly.

Operation Blue Fly was to recover objects of unknown origin that fell to Earth. It

is very important that you remember these were specifically objects that fell to

Earth- because we didn’t have any spacecraft up there at this time. As a result of

this, they had monitors right there at Wright Patterson that when UFO reports came

in they were looked at very closely to see if there was any possible necessity of

sending out teams to recover any of this fallen debris.

The Air Force

states they never used them. I’m telling you I know they did. But the intent of the

Operation Blue Fly peacetime project was to go out and recover objects of unknown

origin that impacted with the Earth. Later it would be expanded in 1957 to cover all

objects of unknown origin meaning spacecraft too. And it would become part of what

they would call in the October of 1957 timeframe, Project Moon Dust.

Project Moon Dust is the overall field exploitation to recover only two

items: First, objects of non-U.S. origin that survives re-entry into the Earth’s

atmosphere and impacts with the Earth and objects. Naturally, we would be interested

in those items from a technical, scientific intelligence basis to determine, or try

to ascertain the technical capabilities of any potential enemy since our known enemy

of the U.S., the USSR at that time that was launching space vehicles into space.

The other area of interest was objects of unknown origin. Now we find that

there were quite a few objects of unknown origin that did not correlate with any

known space launches, impact times, or any known space debris falling back to Earth.

In short, under [Project] Moon Dust and under Blue Fly, we have recovered

alien debris not of this Earth.

The degree of classification that we have

now has changed over the years. Back during the time of the Second World War all the

way up to, say 1969, you may have had as many as 11 classifications..... Now there

are three: confidential, secret and top-secret. However, if you have information

that is highly sensitive that requires protection above and beyond the norm of what

is provided for those classifications...., that’s when you have the Special Access

Programs. You do not get that type of information out into public domain unless it

is officially sanctioned.

During the discussion of UFO’s, the question

ultimately is going to come up can any government keep secrets let alone the U.S.

Government? And the answer to that is unequivocally yes. But one of the greatest

weapons the intelligence community has at their disposal is a predisposition by the

American people, the American politicians, and the debunkers- people who wish to try

to debunk UFO information. They immediately come out and say oh we can’t keep

secrets, we can’t keep secrets. Well, the truth is, yes we can.


National Recognizance Office remained secret for many, many years. The mere

existence of the NSA remained secret. The development of the atomic weapon remained

secret until once you exploded one you eventually had to tell some people what was

going on.

And we are conditioned by our own paradigms not to accept the

possibility or probability of a highly advanced intelligent civilization coming here

to visit us. You have evidence in the form of highly credible reports of objects

being seen, of the entities inside these objects being seen. Yet, we look for a

prosaic explanation and we throw out the bits and pieces of the evidence that

doesn’t meet our paradigm. So it is a self-keeping secret. You can conceal it in

plain sight. It is political suicide to go and start hitting up intelligence

agencies to get this information released. So most of your members of Congress, and

I know I’ve worked with a lot of them along that line, will balk and try not to do

it. I can name you three members of Congress that were point blank asked to have a

congressional inquiry on what happened here at Roswell.

One of the most

ridiculous statements that I got was that a person would have to be a chairperson to

do that. So I asked a senator from Mississippi if he’d do it and without any

hesitation, he said no. I said, would you give me that in writing? I got that in

writing but I’m hesitant to release it. I will show it to you but I’m hesitant to

release it simply because I made a promise not to.

We have got to get the

documentation as it exists in the Government files. We have got to get it released

before it ultimately is destroyed. A good example is the Blue Fly and Moon Dust

files. I had classified documents the Air Force acknowledged. When I got members of

Congress to help me open up more files they were immediately destroyed and I can

prove this.

Somewhere along the line they may see that material and

realize there is some very highly sensitive information that would have a damning

effect upon the national security of United States should it become compromised. It

needs to be further protected to insure that there is only a limited access to that

information to a small number of people. So small you can put them on a list of

paper, on a piece of paper, and list them by name. Thus you have the Special Access

Programs. The controls that were supposed to be put on the Special Access Programs

are not there. When Congress did their review of the way we protect documents and

the way we go ahead and implement our secrecy programs they found that you had

Special Access Programs within Special Access Programs -- that it was essentially

impossible to keep control of them all by Congress. And I’m telling you right now;

it is essentially impossible to keep control of them all.

When it comes to

UFO’s the same criteria applies. Therefore, only a small nucleus within the

intelligence community numbering less than a hundred -- no, I’d suggest less than 50

-- control all that information. It is not subject to congressional review or

oversight at all. So Congress needs to go ahead and ask the hard questions and

convene a hearing.

There would be quite a few missions to describe but

simply put, yes, I was involved in those types of operations to retrieve crashed ET

objects. A lot of people think that you are just in your unit waiting in the

rafters, just waiting for the next UFO crash, a landing where there is going to be

debris. It doesn’t work that way. You have a real life. You have a real job in the

military. However, if you are in an area where an event takes place and you are one

of these people that they can go ahead and call upon in your field of expertise,

then you are called in.

Now, in order to prepare me for this, very early

on in my career they sent me to NBC School at Fort McCullen [sp], Alabama. It’s a

three-week school. It’s for NBC personnel, NBC meaning Nuclear, Biological, and

Chemical. And it would always be in the context of an NBC unit that I would be

involved in UFO retrievals. You would go ahead and deploy as though it was a nuclear

accident. There are procedures already established on nuclear or biological or

chemical accidents. So you would proceed in that way. If you could get in there and

do recoveries, if you could go in and extract the debris that are there quietly

behind the scenes and no one knows, you’d do it. If you needed an officially

sanctioned deception program to come into play, such as a bogus news release, you

could do this also.

For example, if you have an airplane accident we have

standard procedures on how we handle that. Those same procedures are utilized when

you do a recovery or extraction of a crashed ET spacecraft or debris thereof. And I

have to stress debris simply because these are highly advanced technical machines.

There were not that many crashes. They are flawed because they are made by an

intelligence that is as mortal as you or me. Being mortal, we are subject to error.

Now, we are talking about a highly intelligent civilization, not a highly

incompetent civilization. We take steps and they take steps. But at the same time,

when you go out, you make a recovery. And when you make that recovery, you handle it

the same way you would as if you were out there on an airplane accident or you have

a hazardous material type situation, because it works. It is all set up. The only

problem you have is that you have people out there that are very quickly going to

realize that this is not something of this planet. To be sure, with the Blue Fly

recoveries [ET craft], you do what is called an on-site analysis.


short, you have experts out there who know what missiles are, who know what aircraft

are. They are looking at this material. They are telling you what it isn’t. This

leaves you to only one possible conclusion, something that did not originate on the

face of this planet. That was the intent of the Blue Fly teams. It was very critical

to do an immediate on-site analysis. Now, the way you package the material if it is

just debris is handled the same way you would if it was hazardous material. You took

precautions. If you had a whole craft, you took very serious precautions because

while I still state the ET’s are not hostile, you still could cause some serious

accidents, which would result in death. I’m not going to get into how it was with

the family when I had to leave on these operations because you get a little

emotional because you think about what could happen…

Of course, you try to

conceal the material, particularly if you have a large craft and it is disc shaped

or say, wedge shape -- which is a very good shape that we get from time to time. And

you take precautions particularly if you have to go ahead and put it on a truck to

bring it in. If you have to put it on a truck to take it to a safe haven area, we

track that truck. The truck has an 800 number so if there is a breakdown they can

secure the vehicle and stay with it. But they have a number they can call and

immediately get assistance out there to move that vehicle to a safe haven area. And

there are procedures outlined in this. As a matter of fact, you have a shipping

document&#183; And that shipping document has the number right on it to call. So

you use a code word -- I’ll give you one that we used all the time: Tabasco.

In the case of an ET craft, you are going to get a specialized team out

there that knows what to do should there be a biological component. One of the big

concerns we had was biological due to contamination as a result of this being truly

of alien origin.

I am prepared to state that I have been at locations

where craft of unknown origin that did not originate on the face of this planet were

there. I am prepared to state that while I was there, we saw living and dead bodies

of entities that were not born on this planet. I am prepared to state that we had

what they referred to as “interfacing” with those entities. I am prepared to state

that they have a school to try to indoctrinate people. I never went to that school.

I always refused. I am prepared to state that when I got out of the service in 1990,

that they held me for two months so that I might better reconsider to stay in and

not get out. I am prepared to state that I had orders that stated that I was

supposed to get out on December 1st of 1989, and that they revoked those orders.

Once again, in violation of law they held me for two months pending approval of my

retirement, which had already been approved. The purpose of that was to try to

convince me to stay in.

We have contact with aliens not originating from

some foreign country but from some other solar system. And I have been a party to

that. I’ve worked it. I’ve been there. And I know some of the things we do is

really, really, really, really terrible. They are not hostile toward us. We are the

enemy in this instance -- but we are the enemy, I like to think, for the good

reasons. We are concerned about what some other country might do. I have concluded

that I am fighting against the clock. That I have but a short time to try to

convince people that we are moving down an avenue where we are going to militarize

space. Once we militarize space we will have a whole new avenue of technology open

up to us.

NASA says it is going to take another 1,400 years before we

achieve what we call interstellar travel. I’m telling you by the end of this century

we will be doing that. If we do nothing to grow spiritually -- and this is a hard

thing for me to state -- but if we do nothing to grow spiritually we will not

achieve interstellar travel. They will stop us. What’s worse they will make

themselves known to an unsuspecting people on this planet.

We want to

acquire this technology. We want to make this technology part of our own technology.

Within the next 25 years we are going to militarize space. As a result of

militarizing space, we are going to acquire new technologies and we are going to

evolve new technology that is going to lead us into interstellar travel. As a direct

result, we will become a threat to them unless we spiritually grow also. But I feel

that if we do not grow spiritually we are forcing the situation where the entities

will eventually make themselves known. And they will make themselves known. And no

power on Earth can stop that from happening. The ET’s will do this in order to stop

us from going out into space as a threat. If this should happen, it will happen to

an unsuspecting world population and that can create some very serious problems.

[See the testimony of Dr. Carol Rosin regarding Wernher Von Braun’s

concern over our weaponizing space. SG]

But this doesn’t deal just with

the United States. It is a truth that the entire world has to be informed about. And

that truth is that man is not alone, that we have people from other planets, from

other solar systems coming here.

I believe that the intelligence community

had good intentions when they classified information dealing with UFO’s. I believe

that they asked some very serious and hard questions: What impact would it have if

the peoples of the world knew that they were no longer alone in the universe, that

they had intelligence that was visiting this planet? And I think that the intentions

were good there. As intelligence agencies among nations, naturally you want to go

ahead and acquire the technology for military application. So you want to try to

keep some of that knowledge as confidential as possible by classifying it as high as

you possibly can- keeping the information open to only a small handful of people

thus, Special Access Programs. However, I believe that while it was full of good

intentions in keeping this information classified, it is [now] hurting people.

I do not believe that any government has the right to try to make

individuals who merely see UFO’s look crazy. I do not believe that any government

has a right knowing that the psychology of specific individuals may ultimately lead

to a tremendous amount of mental depression, ultimately, leading in many, many cases

to suicide or self destruction. When we see these types of things coming about, we

have an obligation to reconsider our thoughts and positions. I would suggest [that]

we need to break down the walls of secrecy, that we must be responsible in getting

the truth out. We must be responsible in how we get that truth out. And we must be


And it is not a scary story. You will learn that the ET’s have a

perception of God. You find they have families. You find they have cultures. You

find that they have likes and dislikes. You look for those things that are similar

among us, not the differences. And that is the way you start on the path to truth.

The problem that we have right now is that we look at them as something to talk

about; something to marvel at and be amazed at.

Well, back to my own

story, we had just finished the training that I took to be an NBC NCO. And a friend

of mine brought me back to Fort Lee, Virginia. He was going to Fort Meade, Maryland

and says, come on, I’ll give you a ride to your base. And we discussed UFO’s on the

way to Fort Lee.

Several weeks after I got back to Fort Lee, I got a call

from this person and I was going to visit him at Ft. Meade. When I got to Fort Meade

where he was supposed to be, they said, well, he is going to be tied up we’ll talk

to you later about his situation as soon as he gets free. This person says, by the

way, have you ever been to the Pentagon? Well, at that time I had never been at the

Pentagon. So they said, well, it is really a unique place. Why don’t we go ahead and

give you the twenty-five cent tour. So we went on over. We went in. I had a little

badge that was given to me, no picture on it. But the guy that was with me, his had

a picture and he’d just tell the guards he is authorized to come with me. And he’d

always be the one to get me in. Finally we got to a place that has an elevator. We

went down on it- I don’t know how far down we went. I can’t tell you if there is one

flight under the Pentagon, two, or fifty. But we went down. When we get out there,

there are two monorails there. I mean, there are monorails under the Pentagon. They

look like big tubes, rather thick in the center, one on each side. So you had these

little monorails with cars that look like a bullet, where you could seat two people

in front and two people in back. We got on the one monorail and started to go, it

seemed like maybe 20 minutes, but I’m guessing at that because I don’t know for


When we got out, he says, well, let me show you some interesting

sites down this corridor here. So we are going down the corridor and it looked like

there was a door at the far end of that corridor. As we got closer and closer to

that door, my guide turned to me and stated, you know, things aren’t always as they

seem to be. He says a lot of people don’t know about these underground locations

underneath the Pentagon. Only a few know that the Pentagon has underground monorails

that connect up to other locations. He says, it is just like the walls here -- they

don’t all seem like walls. And I said, what do you mean they are not walls? I said,

what are you talking about? I thought, you know, he was trying to make a joke. At

that time he says, no, it is like the wall behind you. I look and it looks like a

wall to me. There are no seams or anything I can see. Then he pushes me. I try to

grab myself but there is actually a door that opened.

Well, when you go

through the door there is like a field table there. And behind the field table you

had this little entity. The entity was a little bigger than the 3, 3 1/2 foot tall

entities that are a lot of times reported. But there were two men on either side of

the table slightly behind the creature. When I turned around, I looked right into

the eyes of this little creature. And you know, it’s like you are seeing it but

everything is being pulled from your mind-he was reading my whole life. It is hard

to describe what I really felt there- your life up to that point goes by in seconds.

And I mean you were feeling everything.

I remember going down and grabbing

a hold of my head like this and falling to the floor. The next thing I remember I

wake up and I am back in my friend’s office [back at Fort Meade]. And when I’m back

in Jack’s office they told me nothing happened that I had been there the whole day.

But I knew better.

I will go this far to state that there is an

interaction between entities and certain Government agencies within the U.S.

Government. I will not go so far to state that they are giving us technologies to

kill ourselves. They are not along that line. Their purpose in being here is for

scientific purposes and for humanitarian purposes.

We have been very

foolish in how we have done certain things and we have harmed ourselves. We now

realize that we have harmed ourselves and we are trying to take corrective action.

And that right there is the one thing that the ET’s are checking on. There is the

biosphere that’s been damaged. They are not coming here to repair that. They are

coming here to see how we handle it. But a government can’t be the one that

shoulders all of the responsibility and shoulders all the knowledge and all the

understanding. The whole situation is that we have to work in unison as a people, a

united people. We must go ahead and start preparing ourselves to where we ultimately

will take that giant step to where we are going to be visiting other planets out

there in other solar systems. And we have to, once again, I’ll use the word, grow

spiritually as a group of people, the people representing mankind on planet Earth.

Yes there is some type- and I don’t know to what extent- but there is some type of

dialogue that is taking place between our visitors of all species, because there is

more than one, and the various governments- not just the U.S. Government, but of the

worlds. Primarily, these are the more developed nations of the world because at

present space faring nations represent the greatest threat to them.

Another early experience I had was an accidental viewing of something I

was not supposed to see. We were in a facility and a friend and I went to a balcony

area looking down over the briefing room. They had a Plexiglas window that separated

the balcony and what was going on downstairs- you couldn’t hear what was being said.

But we started to notice that they were running a film. And the film showed various

types of what we would call UFO’s, today. It showed various types of alien creatures

some that looked very much like us some that looked like us with marked differences.

We were not aware of the fact that there were people now up there with us. And they

said, what are you guys doing up here? And we told them, well you know we are just

sitting up here eating our snacks because we didn’t want to go to the snack bar.

They said, you need to come with us and you need to come with us now. So I mean they

pushed us grabbing us by the nape, the shirt, and pushed us down the stairs.

Once they got down the stairs, they pushed us on out the doors and into a

van. The van was right there waiting, a panel van, where they pushed us in and shut

the door. And then they drove us off. We don’t know where they took us to but the

location where we finally got out was a one-frame military style building. They took

us in there, put us into this room. The room had the military cots there. It had one

table with a light. And we were sitting back trying to figure out why are they doing

this? Why is this going on?

On the fifth night, I got out and they drove

me back to my billets. I reported in and went to bed because I was dead tired and

all I wanted to do was get some sleep. The next morning, which was a Saturday

morning, I am awakened by the CQ, that is, Charge of Quarters. And he says, I want

to see you. Well, I was taken to see two men; one guy was acting like a good guy.

The other guy went ahead and said, I told you we shouldn’t trust him. Let’s just

take the so and so out. Let’s just end this. Let’s shoot him. And the nicer guy

says, no, no, we’ll discuss this. And he sent the guy that was supposed to be the

bad guy out- we use that technique sometimes in security- good cop, bad cop. The one

that was supposed to be the bad guy, he went to get some food.

The good

guy says, listen, he says, you like working with this UFO stuff. And I’m saying, no,

I don’t. And he says, well, you know, you have experience with it. You’ve had some

involvement. He says, and those were not phony pictures up there. He says, would you

like to work with it? Would you like to work with us? I said, no I wouldn’t like

that at all. Eventually he goes ahead and says, look, you like working with, you’ll

get to work with it, you’ll get to learn more about it, he says. He says the whole

situation is that by the end of this year we are going to release everything we

know. But here again the world is not a safe place. We have to know more from a

technological viewpoint and a military standpoint than potential enemies of this

country know. So I’m asking you -- work with us. Well, I thought about it. And you

know, I was young. And I thought this is something that I’ve actually been involved

with all my life, that it’d be fun, that I could go ahead learn certain things,

answers to the questions I had, actually get a better understanding of events in my


I do believe that, one, they wanted me in the military; two, they

wanted me involved in this program; three, there wasn’t really concern about, if at

some later date, I started to talk about it. They were only concerned what I might

have to prove: If I had some little slivers of proof, what impact would that have on

my story. But I know they did not want me out of the military. I know they wanted me

to stay in. I know they wanted me to go ahead and go to what they referred to as The

School. But I would never commit myself to go to what they were referring to as The


I was told that if you go to the school it will open up a whole

new world for you, a whole new avenue. But I had to agree to it. And I had to go

ahead and sign specific papers to go to it. And I was not prepared to go to that

school. I had seen people who were involved with the program that had gone to that

school and let me just say I didn’t like their personality. I did not like the idea

that by you going there it made you something special, it made you a prima donna, if

you wish. That was not the way it was supposed to be. I felt that one of the

greatest things you can be is a servant and not vice versa.

So some of

these people, I did not like their disposition. I did not like their attitudes. And

I did not want to become like them. And one of my fears was if I went to the school

it would change me the same way.

Now, there are events, there are

recoveries [of ET craft]. But the recoveries are few and far between. One of the

events that took place in 1969 was a recovery of a craft that was a wedge shape

craft and took place in Indian Town Gap. Now, I know it was cold and I believe it to

have been in the winter but there was no snow. We were on a field training exercise,

the 96th Civil Affairs Group. I was part of the 96th Civil Affairs Company. I was

the NBC Non-....Commissioner Officer in Charge. We were notified that they had an

incident involving a downed craft and we needed to assist in recovery. The persons

that showed up knew exactly where we were going and we went to our staging area.

From there we went to another location in Indian Town Gap. We didn’t have any

problems about civilians or curiosity seekers or anything like this. The situation

is, we did the recovery. I realized that what I was seeing was not of human origin.

When we got there, there was already a team set up. Floodlights were

always set up around the object. I was asked to get closer and closer to the object

to take readings with the APD 27. As I did this, I realized what I was seeing was

not of an Earthly origin. I’m hesitant to go into it too much, because I don’t want

to get emotional about it…

Bentwaters is another very interesting case.

With Bentwaters, we went there to digest some of the information. As far as the

physical evidence, there were photographs. There was film footage. There was

evidence of a higher than normal background radiation. Not all that high, but above

normal. We found that there were some abnormalities in the area we referred to as

the impact point. We also noticed that the trees had been leveled off at the top.

When we got there, it was late December, I want to say December 28th was the day

that we arrived there.

[See the testimony regarding this event from Larry

Warren, Nick Pope, et al. SG]

We gathered up the materials. We took these

materials back to Lindsey Air Force Base, all the hard evidence that we could get,

all the documentation that was there. There were sightings that were picked up on

radar. Both the British Government and the U.S. Government were aware of these

sightings. The hard evidence that we had was taken back to Lindsey Air Force Base.

There it was digested to where there was some type of information that could be put

out to brief Shape Headquarters [NATO]. And I don’t know who in Shape Headquarters

was briefed. But I do know that we did have to do that. The information was then put

with the special courier. I believe it was coming back to an air base close to the

Washington, D.C. area and that the materials transferred on to Fort Belvoir,

Virginia, headquarters at the time of the U.S. Air Forces Special Field Activities

Group, Air Forces Field Activities Center. They then took this material, did

whatever they did with it, and came up with the finalized intelligence product.

The reason it went to Lindsey was because the U.S. Air Forces Field

Activities Center had detachments in the field. The closest detachment in the field

to Bentwaters would have been Lindsey Air Force Base. They were the ones that got

the material. They were the ones that were charged with safeguarding it until it got

back to the U.S. They were asking questions, hard questions, critical questions.

They were asking technical questions of technical people that were involved. I know

for a fact that some of the radar operators, both British and U.S. were questioned.

I know some of the people were out there on two different nights and they were


I was also involved with the Belgian UFO events in June, July

of 1989. We were assessing information, gathering data on the UFO over flights of

Belgium. The UFOs also went all over Germany. We had one incident there on the

border near the Soviet territory. We saw that the Soviets were pretty upset because

this was a huge object. It was triangular shape about three football fields on

either side of the triangle. It flew over what we call No-Man’s Zone. As it flew

over there we all were getting jittery.

It was, I’d say summer, about

August. You could feel your hair standing up on end. It was more than just, you

know, getting shivers because of fright or something like this. There was some type

of physiological effect taking place. Once this incident subsided, we put fighters

on alert. We notified them that we may have a Soviet craft coming across the gap and

we were going to intercept it. The Soviets did the same thing. It went back over the

Soviet airspace and they scrambled fighters to try to intercept it. It wasn’t

traveling fast at all. But on this particular night no one fired at it.

There were pictures taken. There was consultation with the Soviet Union.

With this going on, everyone was taken in and briefed. People were informed that

what they saw was nothing more than a Russian MIG 27 that had strayed across into

the area far enough into the No-Man’s Zone to create a problem and cause some alarm.

But it was no MIG 27. We knew exactly what we were looking at. You have flashcards

which are silhouettes of the various craft of the Soviet Union and even our own.

So we knew precisely what we were looking at. What we saw was a craft that

was of an unusual origin. It was not aerodynamically.... sound. And when I state it

was not aerodynamically.... sound, I mean it had no means of staying aloft like that

without some visible means of aerial support like a helicopter. That wasn’t there.

It was perfectly silent not making any noise roughly three stories high. This was

one of the incidents that got me a little concerned, made me think about wanting to

get out and come back to the family, to have some family life. We had the incident

escalate. We had it escalate to where the Soviet Union filed an official protest

through the Belgium Government to the U.S. Government stating that they were very

concerned about the Belgium authorities along with several other countries letting

us fly stealth aircraft on reconnaissance missions into the Soviet Union. We

notified and discussed it with the Soviet Union. We briefed at least the Soviet

Military Liaison Mission Groups that this had nothing to do with our involvement of

sending stealth aircraft into their territory.

The Soviet Union was

alarmed about what was going on. They even alluded to it being our craft. They were

reassured that it wasn’t. We reassured the Belgium authorities that it wasn’t. The

Belgium authorities had their own UFO sightings. We have seen this on TV. What you

don’t know about those sightings is that there was a tremendous- I don’t want to

call it a cover-up- there was a movement to keep specific information about those

sightings under wraps. There were some efforts to go ahead and alter the film

footage of the radar screens to the point where it showed the UFO going underground,

which it did not. I think it was supposed to have gone 600 feet into the Earth. That

did not happen. It was visible. People saw it. The pilots saw it. The pilot’s

aircraft locked on to it. But these were things that would create more questions

that we were willing to answer. So we decided to keep this out of the press. And we

were successful at it.

[See the government documents related to this event

and the following. SG]

Another case we were involved with was the Iranian

incident of September 19th, 1976. Both fighters were taken apart to try to find out

if there was any way we could explain what really happened to those fighters which

were having malfunctions at the same time. There was a situation where we had some

anomalies picked up out where the sighting was- where one of the Air Force pilots

saw the UFO go down to the ground. We recorded those anomalies with audio devices.

We took film footage of the area and there were some strange things that showed up

on that film footage. Everything that took place there at the landing area, I am not

privy to. I don’t have all the information. It wasn’t something I had to be involved

in. But I can tell you this much, whatever took place there had people out there for

two to three weeks.

In 1986, I believe it was, we fired at a UFO on two

occasions. The UFO took off like nothing happened. In ‘86 you had the incident where

you had 20 or more UFO’s flying around Brazilian aircraft, flying rings around them.

These documents are important.

Not more than two-dozen UFOs had been

retrieved by 1969 when I was briefed first. We were informed that there had only

been a couple dozen tops- that there were several in the ‘40’s and the early 50’s.

And to make it perfectly clear about those events that took place then, it sounds

crazy but our radar wreaked havoc on the ET guidance systems and they had to make

adjustments to their guidance systems for that.

How many bodies had been

recovered? Don’t know. How many crashes have occurred in which we only got debris

because the ET’s came and did their recovery before we got there? Don’t know but it

has happened. It has happened. When they had problems, just like we send out a

distress call, they send out a distress call, which is something that a lot of

people don’t think about; it’s a question that’s never asked. But here again we

think of them as something intangible like that stuffed animal there. But they are

living, breathing creatures as mortal as you and me. They think, they have loves,

they have likes, they have dislikes, they have social culture.

This is so

important to try to make people understand that that is the case. I want to put the

human factor back into UFO’s. And when I say the human factor, I mean that these are

real people. You can call them entities. You can call them creatures. But you

sometimes find yourself wondering: who are the more real people, them or us? And

these are things that really need to be brought out- the fact that they are just

like you and me. We need to seek out the similarities, not the differences and come

to a greater understanding. Because eventually, in the not too distant future, we

are going to have that final contact that is going to open new doors…


lot of people sit back and say, well, they don’t have bases here. Ah, yeah, they do.

We were involved in a major engagement in 1970 in one of their bases in

Vietnam approximately seven miles from the Cambodian border. If you want to know

more about that, I did an audiotape on that. And I’ll make you a copy of the

audiotape. I will apologize for actually trying to hold back from some of the

stories simply because if I start talking about some of the stories you start

reliving them. And you don’t understand, I mean, you really don’t understand…

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